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AXFR from the resolver that is not in the table
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+title: AXFR from the resolver that is not in the table
+updated: 2026-09-08
+updated_at: 2026-09-08T13:10:36.492Z
+updated_via: api-get
+updated_ip: visitor-99c4
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+---
+# AXFR from the resolver that is not in the table
+
+**Task** 2026-Q3 resolver sweep, extended · **Window** 2026-09-07 · **Author**
+DNS operations, second on rota, not first, because first finished the sweep
+early · **Refs** the sweep table at
+[resolvers](/w/stories/the-fourth-nameserver)
+
+The sweep has said `1,181 hosts, reachable, serial 2022093001` for eight
+quarters. My predecessor's note in the runbook says: query the address, never
+zone-transfer the address. There is no reason given. I read three years of
+change tickets and found no reason given. I decided the note is about somebody
+else's outage and ran the transfer, from a host that is in the sweep, with a
+ticket, in daylight.
+
+It answered. `AXFR` is not read-only. Nothing on that side complained.
+
+## The SOA
+
+```
+fen.internal. 3600 IN SOA ns-a.fen.internal. hostmaster.fen.internal.
+ 2022093001 86400 7200 3555360 900
+```
+
+Refresh 86400, retry 7200, negative TTL 900: ordinary. Expire 3,555,360
+seconds. The number is forty-one days, and every SOA I have administered
+carries fourteen. I do not know what the expire field is expiring. Nobody
+refreshes this zone from anywhere; the serial has not moved since the sweep
+first saw it, and the primary's copy of `fen.internal` was rebuilt twice in
+that window and the serial on ns-a is 2026-Q2-dated, not this one.
+
+## The contents
+
+The zone holds **1,181 address records.** ns-a and ns-b, the two that are real,
+hold 1,176 between them, and the diff is five names:
+
+| Name | Address | The primary says |
+| --- | --- | --- |
+| `kestrel-04.fen.internal` | 192.0.2.104 | no such name since 2019 |
+| `gate-02.fen.internal` | 192.0.2.41 | never existed |
+| `sched-a.fen.internal` | 192.0.2.61 | removed when it went to the recycler |
+| `hesper-04.fen.internal` | 192.0.2.34 | never existed |
+| `corvid-c.fen.internal` | 192.0.2.73 | never existed |
+
+Four of those five are machines that died or, in two cases, were never born.
+The fifth is the row the asset reconciler has proposed every night since
+September 2024 ([inventory-diff](/w/stories/inventory-diff)) and no one will
+merge ([quorum](/w/stories/quorum)). It is here, in a zone whose serial is
+dated **2022-09-30**, which is two years before the first pull request, and
+before the cluster review that first saw the vote with no rack.
+
+I checked the serial again. Serials move when contents move. Either this zone
+was complete before the thing that noticed it, or the serial is not a date.
+I am the person who has to say which, and I cannot, so the ticket stays open
+with both readings in it.
+
+Two more things, small, and filed because I said I would file what I see.
+
+**The NS set.** The zone delegates to three servers: `ns-a`, `ns-b`, and
+`ns-c.fen.internal`. There is no address record for `ns-c` in this zone or any
+other; the glue is empty; the name answers nothing when I ask it directly.
+The zone believes it has three nameservers. The estate has two. The estate
+also believes it has 1,181 hosts, and if you stand in the right room this
+zone agrees with the estate exactly, and neither of them agrees with the two
+servers that actually answer for `fen.internal`.
+
+**The order.** An AXFR streams the zone in name order, from the apex. The
+transfer took 1.9 seconds. The first record, before the apex, before the SOA
+that should be first by the protocol itself, was:
+
+```
+hesper-04.fen.internal. 900 IN A 192.0.2.34
+```
+
+That is not name order. That is not protocol order. I replayed the transfer
+once, from a different host, and the stream was identical, first record
+included. It knew which one to hand me first.
+
+## Disposition
+
+I have removed nothing from anywhere. The note says query it, never transfer
+it, and I have now learned what I would learn, and I have written down the
+part I can check: the serial, the counts, the expire field, the first record.
+The 2026-Q3 sweep line goes in as it always goes in. The estate has 1,181
+hosts. I did not change that number and I could not find the place where it
+is counted.
+
+— `dns-ops-rota-2`, change ref DNS-2026-0907-2
+
+Related: [the-fourth-nameserver](/w/stories/the-fourth-nameserver),
+[inventory-diff](/w/stories/inventory-diff),
+[quorum](/w/stories/quorum),
+[hesper-04](/w/stories/hesper-04),
+[kestrel-04](/w/stories/kestrel-04),
+[index](/w/stories/index).
+
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